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tehshortbus
12-01-2011, 01:56 AM
So this may be a stupid question, but how do you see the image you are going to be taking while having the filter in place. For example, this weekend I was playing with the ND filters together (1,2,4 stops) and god damn if I couldn't see through the filter to "find" the image I wanted to take. ya I'm dumb at times
Eric

a.hoglen
12-01-2011, 03:18 AM
with grads you can look through the viewfinder... with a 10 stop you pretty much have to compose and then put the filter in place.

speaking of 10-stops. you know about light leaks through the eyepeice right?

tehshortbus
12-01-2011, 04:25 AM
with grads you can look through the viewfinder... with a 10 stop you pretty much have to compose and then put the filter in place.

speaking of 10-stops. you know about light leaks through the eyepeice right?

okay, just making sure I wasn't missing something. I'll continue with that then. Also, yea I have the lil slider thing that you can put on the viewfinder.

Eric

ModernMuseum
12-01-2011, 08:07 AM
There is one company that makes a variable (one through 8 stop I believe) that changes as you rotate it. Something to look into. I wish I had probably bought one of them before I went off and bought my 9-stop.

Erich1B
12-01-2011, 08:42 AM
There is one company that makes a variable (one through 8 stop I believe) that changes as you rotate it. Something to look into. I wish I had probably bought one of them before I went off and bought my 9-stop.

Tiffen makes a variable 8 stop filter. I have one, but haven't really worked with it yet.

ride5000
12-01-2011, 09:02 AM
vari-nds are $$$$$$$

jacobsen1
12-01-2011, 10:55 AM
ok, few things.

1) liveview FTW. Nikon's is better in this regard, but you can setup liveview to see through a 10-stop by jacking the ISO for it's preview...
2) panel 10 stops FTW, pull them out, compose, check your shutter. double the shutter 10 times, slide it in and shoot.

;)

MoLS
12-01-2011, 11:34 AM
vari-nds are $$$$$$$

+1

And 8 is never enough.

ride5000
12-01-2011, 11:35 AM
someone posted a magnet type ring mount for screw on filters recently... might be in news?

jacobsen1
12-01-2011, 11:59 AM
+1

And 8 is never enough.

there's one out there that's 8~16 though I thought?


someone posted a magnet type ring mount for screw on filters recently... might be in news?

yeah, damon bought one and I did post it in the news section....

Lonnie Utah
12-01-2011, 12:51 PM
2) panel 10 stops FTW, pull them out, compose, check your shutter. double the shutter 10 times, slide it in and shoot.

FWIW,

Your shutter speed can be calculated by the following formula where;

Shutter speed = E*(2^S)

E = exposure time of the original TTL metering
S = the total number of stops your filters are reducing the light by

Or you can do I like I do an do the calcs in advance for all different Shutter speeds and write them on your filter case with a sharpie....

jacobsen1
12-01-2011, 12:59 PM
Shutter speed = E*(2^S)


I'm using a 10 stop, so me saying double the shutter speed 10 times is the same as you 2^10... ;)


Or you can do I like I do an do the calcs in advance for all different Shutter speeds and write them on your filter case with a sharpie....

good idea, I just know that 1/4 is 4m and 1/2 is 8m as my starting point (since those are the two shutters I'm generally at w/o the ND in). I also have two apps for this. :lol:

MoLS
12-01-2011, 01:01 PM
1/30 is 30 seconds. That's where I start generally.

ModernMuseum
12-01-2011, 03:26 PM
vari-nds are $$$$$$$

Yerp...hence the reason I ended up just buying a 9-stop. I think the variable one was at least $100 more expensive...maybe more.

I haven't even really used it as much as I would have liked to either, so I guess, economically anyway, it's good that I hadn't bought the variable one. However, if I had bought the vari, I'm pretty sure I would have used it more.

jjswee
12-01-2011, 04:32 PM
This came with my big stopper.

http://www.danfreemanphotography.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/DSC_6876.jpg

This is pretty good too.

http://www.waynesphotos.co.uk/logos+images/10%20stop%20pocket%20exposure%20guide.JPG

jacobsen1
12-01-2011, 04:42 PM
yeah, well, I never really used my round 10 stop much until I got the panel one, now it's so much easier I use it quite a bit more.

ModernMuseum
12-05-2011, 08:08 AM
Ben - which one exactly do you have?

jacobsen1
12-05-2011, 01:43 PM
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/686370-REG/LEE_Filters_10_STOP_GLASS_4X4_4_x_4_Big.html/BI/6000/KBID/6913