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ride5000
09-08-2009, 10:30 AM
I love how you take modern photos and make them look 70's & 80's through PP. I'd love to know... do you have a one-click filter/action for that? PS3 or LR2? I'd love to see the steps.


love this set! did you edit 4 and 10 like that? if so what did you use? i love the way they look.

plus damon asked me like 3 months ago... :lol:

probably the easiest thing to explain what some of my post process work consists of is to reverse-engineer the default metadata that adobe lightroom attaches to a photo on export. that way i don't have to explain it for every shot, which appeals to my sense of laziness. ;)

for example, this is the "More properties (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ken-gilbert/3898080098/meta/)" page for one of the photos mentioned in my edaville rr thread.


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2579/3898080098_e11fc0c304.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ken-gilbert/3898080098/)

Camera: Canon EOS 20D
Exposure: 0.001 sec (1/750)
Aperture: f/5.6
Focal Length: 16 mm
Exposure: -1.05

^^^ this is the exposure slider in LR--about a stop pulled/underexposed

ISO Speed: 100
Exposure Bias: 0 EV
Flash: Off, Did not fire

^^ pretty self explanatory

File Size: 1789 kB
File Type: JPEG
MIME Type: image/jpeg
Image Width: 2336
Image Height: 3504
Encoding Process: Baseline DCT, Huffman coding
Bits Per Sample: 8
Color Components: 3
X-Resolution: 240 dpi
Y-Resolution: 240 dpi
Date and Time (Modified): 2009:09:07 17:15:37
Artist: unknown
Copyright: 2009
Exposure Program: Manual

^^^ manual mode

Date and Time (Original): 2009:09:04 14:58:27-04:00
Date and Time (Digitized): 2009:09:04 14:58:27
Max Aperture Value: 2.8
Metering Mode: Multi-segment
Focal Plane X-Resolution: 3959.32203389831 dpi
Focal Plane Y-Resolution: 3959.32203389831 dpi
Custom Rendered: Normal
Exposure Mode: Manual
White Balance: Auto

^^^ don't be fooled by this--this is the wb in the camera--obviously has no effect when shooting raw

Scene Capture Type: Standard
Compression: JPEG (old-style)
Copyright Flag: True
Keywords: alena
By-line: Ken Gilbert
Copyright Notice: 2009
Viewing Conditions Illuminant Type: D50
Measurement Observer: CIE 1931
Measurement Flare: 0.999%
Measurement Illuminant: D65
XMPToolkit: Adobe XMP Core 4.2-c020 1.124078, Tue Sep 11 2007 23:21:40
Creator Tool: Adobe Photoshop Lightroom
Lens: 11.0-16.0 mm
Image Number: 48
Flash Compensation: 0
Owner Name: unknown
Marked: True
Usage Terms: All Rights Reserved

White Balance: Custom
Temperature: 4381
Tint: -68

^^^ this is the TRUE wb as set within LR. notice the shift towards bluer (temp) and greener (tint)

Shadows: 0

^^^ this is the black clipping or "blacks" slider in the basic LR settings

Brightness: +50
Contrast: +89

^^^ contrast slider in LR

Saturation: 0
Sharpness: 25
Luminance Smoothing: 0
Color Noise Reduction: 25
Chromatic Aberration R: 0
Chromatic Aberration B: 0

^^^ default detail section settings

Vignette Amount: 0

^^^ that vignette is the "lens correction" vign

Shadow Tint: +100
Red Hue: 0
Red Saturation: -29
Green Hue: 0
Green Saturation: -26
Blue Hue: 0
Blue Saturation: +43

^^^ this section is for the camera calibration sliders. note the very heavy magenta shadows, partially offset by the green WB tint. also notice the pushed blue saturation with respect to red and green. these sliders don't always intereact as you would expect them to since you are making changes to the way the raw converter interprets the raw mosaic data. EXPERIMENTATION IS KEY.

Fill Light: 0
Vibrance: 0
Highlight Recovery: 0
Clarity: 0

^^^ all map exactly to the LR controls

Defringe: 0

^^^ that's on the detail tab. i never change this

Hue Adjustment Red: 0
Hue Adjustment Orange: 0
Hue Adjustment Yellow: 0
Hue Adjustment Green: 0
Hue Adjustment Aqua: 0
Hue Adjustment Blue: 0
Hue Adjustment Purple: 0
Hue Adjustment Magenta: 0
Saturation Adjustment Red: 0
Saturation Adjustment Orange: 0
Saturation Adjustment Yellow: 0
Saturation Adjustment Green: 0
Saturation Adjustment Aqua: 0
Saturation Adjustment Blue: 0
Saturation Adjustment Purple: 0
Saturation Adjustment Magenta: 0
Luminance Adjustment Red: 0
Luminance Adjustment Orange: 0
Luminance Adjustment Yellow: 0
Luminance Adjustment Green: 0
Luminance Adjustment Aqua: 0
Luminance Adjustment Blue: -62
Luminance Adjustment Purple: 0
Luminance Adjustment Magenta: 0

^^^ all on the color tab. notice i pulled down the blue luminance which can bring depth to the sky. don't push things too far though, because pixelization noise results...


Split Toning Shadow Hue: 236
Split Toning Shadow Saturation: 12
Split Toning Highlight Hue: 51
Split Toning Highlight Saturation: 31
Split Toning Balance: 0

^^^ split tone section. self explanatory. these settings are a light gold highlight and a light blue shadow.

Parametric Shadows: 0
Parametric Darks: 0
Parametric Lights: +29
Parametric Highlights: +100
Parametric Shadow Split: 10
Parametric Midtone Split: 50
Parametric Highlight Split: 90

^^^ this is the tone curve section. values range from -100 to +100, splits (the x axis, controlling the "width" of the regions) are from 0 to 100.

Sharpen Radius: +1.0
Sharpen Detail: 25
Sharpen Edge Masking: 0

^^ more detail tab, default settings

Post Crop Vignette Amount: 0

^^ like it says, post crop vignette

Convert To Grayscale: False
Tone Curve Name: Custom

^^ if the tone curve says "custom" like this, you are somewhat out of luck because you can't reverse engineer it. however, the vast majority of LR users will have one of the default choices here, linear, medium contrast, strong contrast.

Camera Profile: Camera Neutral beta 2

^^ another key aspect... custom camera profiles. these are the profiles provided by adobe for download. normally i use camera standard, but neutral has a bit less contrast and is slightly less yellow on skin tones

Has Settings: True
Has Crop: False
Already Applied: True
Tone Curve: 0, 20

^^^ these two numbers are the first two data coordinates on the custom tone curve, the "left most" point, in x and y. unfortunately there is a lot more to the curve. i am planning on writing something up on rolling your own custom curves...

Legacy IPTCDigest: 28E4701D63D2FBE19458735810B8CD37
Creator Postal Code: 02865
Creator Region: RI
Creator Country: USA
Creator Work URL: http://ken-gilbert.com
Creator: Ken Gilbert
Rights: 2009
Subject: alena
Color Transform: YCbCr
Flash Return: No return detection
Flash Mode: Off
Flash Function: False
Flash Red Eye Mode: False

PhatheadWRX
09-08-2009, 10:40 AM
By-line: Ken Gilbert
Copyright Notice: 2009
Legacy IPTCDigest: 28E4701D63D2FBE19458735810B8CD37
Creator Postal Code: 02865
Creator Region: RI
Creator Country: USA
Creator Work URL: http://ken-gilbert.com
Creator: Ken Gilbert
Rights: 2009
Can you set these in PS or just LR?

Idjiit
09-08-2009, 10:41 AM
Niiiiiiice. Great write-up, Ken - always wondered about this.

nuklehead
09-08-2009, 10:50 AM
wow! thanks Ken!

ride5000
09-08-2009, 10:53 AM
Can you set these in PS or just LR?

pretty sure you can do everything in PS that you can do in LR, french. look in file info, alt-shift-ctrl-I, IPTC tab.

PhatheadWRX
09-08-2009, 10:54 AM
I guess I'm looking for a way to do it automatically. I just wrote a PS action, I'll add to my others...

subimatt
09-08-2009, 10:56 AM
nice Ken!

shelloflight
09-08-2009, 05:00 PM
pretty sure you can do everything in PS that you can do in LR, french. look in file info, alt-shift-ctrl-I, IPTC tab.

or you can just make a custom metadata preset and have it applied on import. i think that's what i do.

shelloflight
09-08-2009, 05:02 PM
and by the way Ken, i asked you about this stuff about a year ago and all you said was "here's a hint, split tone." and then slapped me. jerk.

ride5000
09-08-2009, 05:19 PM
and by the way Ken, i asked you about this stuff about a year ago and all you said was "here's a hint, split tone." and then slapped me. jerk.

well, add yourself to the list then, ya little bitch.