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jacobsen1
02-04-2009, 01:27 PM
HIGH JAYSO! :wave:


anyway, I've been looking for a sling/backpack that doesn't suck for a long time now. In my "what to buy" thread about slings ages ago someone mentioned this kata, and after cyberstalking it I went for it. Let me just say that I'm VERY picky about my bags... so any little issue will get mentioned/bitched about where most people would just deal with it. But anyway, here's how I've stuffed it:

http://gear.benjacobsenphoto.com/wp-content/gallery/kata-3n1-30/img_0011-labels.jpg
note that if you're going to shoot like this, it'd be best to take that top compartment, convert it to one spot big enough for the 100-400 and go with just one lens up there. This way if you swap out the 100-400 you don't have to keep swapping back to store the camera...

this is how you'd open it if using as a sling (unclip then just pull the top left corner in this pick and it VERY QUICKLY opens as shown:
http://gear.benjacobsenphoto.com/wp-content/gallery/kata-3n1-30/img_0009.jpg

unclip the bottom clip and unzip more for more access (you wouldn't do this while on your back):
http://gear.benjacobsenphoto.com/wp-content/gallery/kata-3n1-30/img_0010.jpg

keep going and you're to where the first shot was:
http://gear.benjacobsenphoto.com/wp-content/gallery/kata-3n1-30/img_0011.jpg

here's the top compartment:
http://gear.benjacobsenphoto.com/wp-content/gallery/kata-3n1-30/img_0013.jpg
notice it's got a rainfly and memory card holder in there. There's a small mesh compartment there as well as 2 side pockets. Lots of room for small things non photo related or even more lenses/gear.

the straps (notice the 2 red ones? That's to show you how to hook up the sling [red to red]. Backpack is as shown, you can sling either way, or you can criss cross [IBjumpjump], also notice how nicely the hip straps stuff/tuck away, the other straps if going with one sling also hide very well):
http://gear.benjacobsenphoto.com/wp-content/gallery/kata-3n1-30/img_0012.jpg

here's the back of the bag zipped up:
http://gear.benjacobsenphoto.com/wp-content/gallery/kata-3n1-30/img_0007.jpg

here's my first issue:
http://gear.benjacobsenphoto.com/wp-content/gallery/kata-3n1-30/img_0008.jpg

that's a closeup of one of the clips at the corner. You unclip one of those and pull to do the quick access sling deal which works very well. But see how they stitched OVER the zipper? not sure WHY they did it, but with it like that you can't fully open the entire back of the backpack one the ground (say to fully load it the first time and position dividers....). It's not the end of the world, but it's a bit curious. Obviously they don't want you to zip past the clip for whatever reason. One zipper with this stopper is more cost effective than stitching in 2 zippers, so that's why, but why shouldn't I be able to put my zippers wherever I want (if you go past here it makes it much more time consuming to open this flap).

also, check out this youtube clip as it really clears up how the quick access functions:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=SZC6e7gSCKc

the girl in this one is hotter (the other one has a dude) but she talks way too much and doesn't show as much:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=rI9ww1cSeSw

jacobsen1
02-04-2009, 01:27 PM
oh, and french, check the EXIFs. :wave:

Jayso
02-04-2009, 02:10 PM
Nice, definitely a size difference from my bag. The zipper thing doesnt bother me as much, I can access EVERYTHING in the big compartment through the sling side.
Cute you are using a XSi, it must look like a toy camera in your hands.

jacobsen1
02-04-2009, 02:14 PM
yeah, in use the zipper block isn't an issue, it's just a squeeze to get to those top spots they way it is in the fourth pic. If I open that side from the sling side it's fine though. But my point is why block the zipper? W/o the block it makes for FULL ACCESS when loading/unloading and normal access otherwise. I'd bet it's because if it's not blocked there people won't zip it to there and then the quickness goes away because you can't just tug the flap.

as for the XSi, it's not terrible. It's small and light which is nice, but it's the different controls that make me have to think about how to do things. Also, the previous owner left it in monochrome, so when I was trying to set a pic for a CWB it was saying I couldn't and it took a minute to sort that out. :lol: But it's better than a XTi for sure just in it's layout. I'm sure Nikki will love it. And 800 w/IS obviously works for these types of shots. :)

Jayso
02-04-2009, 02:18 PM
yeah, in use the zipper block isn't an issue, it's just a squeeze to get to those top spots they way it is in the fourth pic. If I open that side from the sling side it's fine though. But my point is why block the zipper? W/o the block it makes for FULL ACCESS when loading/unloading and normal access otherwise. I'd bet it's because if it's not blocked there people won't zip it to there and then the quickness goes away because you can't just tug the flap.

as for the XSi, it's not terrible. It's small and light which is nice, but it's the different controls that make me have to think about how to do things. Also, the previous owner left it in monochrome, so when I was trying to set a pic for a CWB it was saying I couldn't and it took a minute to sort that out. :lol: But it's better than a XTi for sure just in it's layout. I'm sure Nikki will love it. And 800 w/IS obviously works for these types of shots. :)


Awesome, I should get some photos of my bag stuffed. I could probably fit more but eh.. money is something worth keeping around right now.

jacobsen1
02-04-2009, 02:21 PM
yeah, I hear that, I've been consolidating what I have lately. Not a good time to have a ton of **** around you don't need. :unamused: These last few things I've picked up all came from the sale of one lens. :unamused:

PhatheadWRX
02-04-2009, 02:59 PM
woot! looks like a cool bag (it did when Jayso showcased it too)

I know you wouldn't be a fan of the XSi controls, but its a fun, light camera. Can't wait to get more of your input after a while here (http://www.newschoolofphotography.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5958)

jacobsen1
02-04-2009, 03:59 PM
yeah, and the XSi controls aren't bad, and they're MUCH better than the XTi for some reason (because they're not that different)...

they're not bad as long as I remind myself it's not one of my cameras. If my mind is set it's a canon DSLR, then I try to assume **** and get frustrated... The B+W issue is the same on my 5D, it's just nothing I've run into. :)

oh, and french, check you menus, are they colors muted a bit? I know my other body is a terrible reference, but the XSi menu colors look less bright than even the 40D did...

PhatheadWRX
02-04-2009, 06:31 PM
Is your LCD brightness low? The XSi doesn't have auto LCD brightness. Also I run the white on black text

thechickencow
02-04-2009, 07:53 PM
bag looks decent, and the quickdraw seems nice, but i'm gonna stick with my burton.

riderofbmx4130
02-04-2009, 11:22 PM
this is interesting! i kinda wanna test one out :wave:

IBLetsGoShootSomePhoto's?

jacobsen1
02-05-2009, 11:35 AM
:lol:

yeah, that's assuming this is the bag I'd even bring though. Damn having too many bags. I wish I could have made it Sunday, but I had boat **** them matt/leah/lily coming over. This weekend I'm going to VT all weekend. :D

riderofbmx4130
02-05-2009, 11:46 AM
This weekend I'm going to VT all weekend. :D
<----- jealous.

:unamused:

jacobsen1
02-05-2009, 11:50 AM
well it's with my InLaws and 11month old son.... So it'll be fun, but interesting/stressful as well. Nikki's already stressing about his sleeping, eating, blah blah blah. :unamused: It's no wonder this is his first trip anywhere I suppose. But worst case I'm getting in 2 half days, and at my old stomping grounds (Pico).

riderofbmx4130
02-05-2009, 12:00 PM
old stomping grounds = then and now photos?

kinds sucks big time when the girl/wife in your case is stressing about things that will never really go wrong :unamused:

jacobsen1
02-05-2009, 12:11 PM
not sure how many old shots I have from there, but I should see what I can dig up before we leave. Yes there will be new shots for sure though, I'll probably even ski with the DSLR one day since it's going up anyway... Then the gopro the other day. ;)

as for her, yeah, first kid so she worries about **** she shouldn't. We didn't go out on the boat for a weekend this summer because she was worried he'd climb out of the bed. :unamused:

riderofbmx4130
02-05-2009, 12:25 PM
well i'd love to see some shots, especially the gopro!

i guess it's expected as it's the first kid. only natural

Jayso
03-02-2009, 04:19 AM
HEY BEEEEEEN!!!!!!!!!!
Look what I found!!!!

eBCG-PPbDIk


only place i could find it is here:

http://www.bogenimagingstore.us/servlet/-strse-70/tripod-holder%2Csling-bag%2Cbackpack%2Ctripod%2Clightweight-tripod%2Cholder%2C/Detail

so i bought one.

CaityB
03-02-2009, 09:02 AM
Hmmmmmm. I've been looking for a bag like this. Ughhhhh. The price doesn't look that bad for my range :lol:

Thanks :)

jacobsen1
03-02-2009, 09:03 AM
it came with mine. :wave:

yeah, no directions, but I figured it out. Haven't used it yet though. :sadbanana:

Jayso
03-02-2009, 02:58 PM
it came with mine. :wave:

yeah, no directions, but I figured it out. Haven't used it yet though. :sadbanana:


yeah, I didnt get one. I blame my GF for not buying the complete package.
It's ok tho, mine is on its way.

dmitchell
05-11-2009, 03:00 PM
Hey Ben and Jayso 2 months later do you still like this bag?

My B-day is coming up and I have to provide a list. One of the things on said list is a new bag.

Jayso
05-11-2009, 03:15 PM
Hey Ben and Jayso 2 months later do you still like this bag?

My B-day is coming up and I have to provide a list. One of the things on said list is a new bag.

Unless I intentionally want to pack light with camera gear, I always use this bag.

dmitchell
05-11-2009, 04:01 PM
Thanks, I'm pretty well sold on this - my only issue is my tripod is pretty big to put on the outside and where to stick a spare jacket if I was hiking.

Jayso
05-11-2009, 04:04 PM
Thanks, I'm pretty well sold on this - my only issue is my tripod is pretty big to put on the outside and where to stick a spare jacket if I was hiking.

tuck the jacket around a strap. the tripid, simple, get an old camera strap and use that. or a cood strap/clip and clip it onto the bag on the big metal loop

dmitchell
05-11-2009, 04:07 PM
Ok! It's on the list! Hmm I wonder if she'll get me the bag or the 100-400:lol:

bryanj87
05-08-2010, 09:23 AM
I recently purchased the laptop version of this bag, and they have addressed the zipper/stitching issue you pointed out here. The stitching now goes on the other side of the zipper so you can more easily open the bag fully.