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danm
10-14-2008, 10:14 PM
So I took this pic back in July at my SIL's wedding:
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk207/drmccarty/Bruner%20wedding/IMG_3564unedited800.jpg

Full res here (http://www.newschoolofphotography.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=2974)

I have played with it, and made some changes. sharpened it, tried to lighten the eyes a little, white balance, and contrast.
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk207/drmccarty/Bruner%20wedding/IMG_3564editedmore800.jpg

Full res here (http://www.newschoolofphotography.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=2971)

I used Gimp cause I don't have the budget for PS.

Anyone care to give this pic a quick once over and show me up?

s7khan
10-14-2008, 10:36 PM
My try

http://www.newschoolofphotography.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=2977

JERM
10-14-2008, 10:49 PM
Better? I only spent about 3 minutes on this...

http://s90223359.onlinehome.us/images/nsop/bride.jpg

ride5000
10-14-2008, 11:32 PM
here's a version that i just color balanced and adjusted contrast/levels
http://www.ken-gilbert.com/images/lr2/IMG_3564%20as%20Smart%20Object-1-1.jpg

here's a cropped version
http://www.ken-gilbert.com/images/lr2/cropIMG_3564%20as%20Smart%20Object-1-1.jpg

here's a cropped bw version
http://www.ken-gilbert.com/images/lr2/cropbwIMG_3564%20as%20Smart%20Object-1-1.jpg

JERM
10-14-2008, 11:37 PM
here's a version that i just color balanced and adjusted contrast/levels
http://www.ken-gilbert.com/images/lr2/IMG_3564%20as%20Smart%20Object-1-1.jpg

here's a cropped version
http://www.ken-gilbert.com/images/lr2/cropIMG_3564%20as%20Smart%20Object-1-1.jpg

here's a cropped bw version
http://www.ken-gilbert.com/images/lr2/cropbwIMG_3564%20as%20Smart%20Object-1-1.jpg

YIKES! Very cartoonish colors. Even the B&W looks weird. Do you know how to re-size images?

EDIT: ((Not that mine is any better.))

ride5000
10-14-2008, 11:39 PM
no. can you teach me?

JERM
10-14-2008, 11:55 PM
:unamused:

danm
10-15-2008, 07:42 AM
Ken, i hadn't thought about doing a b&w conversion. i will play with this too. it may be the answer to my problems since the light was sooooooo yellow in the church.

ride5000
10-15-2008, 09:14 AM
dan, i tried to white balance it but that's a weakness of jpg vs. raw. when i pushed the veil all the way white it bleached out the skin highlights quite a bit.

because the jpg has in a sense been "rasterized" by the camera already it's prone to leaving gaps in the histogram when you do color operations.

if you do a b+w conversion, do it without any color correction, precisely for that reason.

the lighting is very hard (all overhead and a long distance from subject) and shadows are tough. you may have to resort to localized adjustments, particularly around the eyes and face, which i did not do. i did open the picture with adobe camera raw and added some recovery (to burn the highlights) and fill light (to dodge the shadows), but those are global adjustments and compromises have to be made.

you definitely need to crop out the extremely bright cross on the wall (as i did in the two crops), because it screams for attention otherwise.

hth
ken

jacobsen1
10-15-2008, 12:50 PM
I spent about 1 minute in ACR, used the WB dropper, then tweaked blue/yellow to -30 and green/magenta to -10 (those numbers might be backwards):
http://www.newschoolofphotography.com/wp-content/gallery/others-pped/img_3564.jpg
the blown highlights kinda wreck it a bit (her skin/neck and the cross/wall especially).

ride5000
10-15-2008, 01:00 PM
yeah, the skin/neck is the deal breaker. crop the cross right out and that problem is solved, but you can't do much with the neck.

dan, are they all sisters? they do look similar.

if so, you got the pick of the litter. ;) imo of course.

danm
10-15-2008, 01:21 PM
yeah, the skin/neck is the deal breaker. crop the cross right out and that problem is solved, but you can't do much with the neck.

dan, are they all sisters? they do look similar.

if so, you got the pick of the litter. ;) imo of course.


the bride and my shorty on the left are sister's the other two are also sisters but from another family. all four grew up together and such though. non of them are dissimilar, but the sister pairs are still pretty obvious.

i agree that i got the pick of the litter too:banana:, thanks for the compliment, now quit staring!:D


I am amazed what you guys have been able to get out of this picture. the biggest thing i have gotten out of this is how to make PP easier in the future. higher iso and NN, use RAW for better WB control, and quit being cheap and get a flash and/or faster glass.

thanks to everyone who has tried, you all did amazing jobs.

ben yours is exactly what i was hoping to see if you tried this one. i knew the shadows would be problem no matter what but i really wanted to see what your WB treatment would look like

jacobsen1
10-15-2008, 01:59 PM
yeah, no worries. I didn't even monkey with the shadows FYI.... Maybe I should reread the OP and try? :lol:

jacobsen1
10-15-2008, 02:15 PM
http://www.newschoolofphotography.com/wp-content/gallery/others-pped/img_3564-shadows.jpg

danm
10-15-2008, 02:39 PM
dude, wow that is night and day from the original

danm
10-15-2008, 06:38 PM
any better?

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk207/drmccarty/Bruner%20wedding/IMG_3564editedmore3_800.jpg

jacobsen1
10-15-2008, 08:12 PM
yeah, much better than your first crack at it.
try desaturating the reds and or yellow on their faces though. ;)

blcknspo0ln
10-16-2008, 05:48 PM
I hope this looks good because I put about 45 minutes into it! More so because I wanted to see how well I could photoshop than anything. This was broken down to about 7 layers or so. Wedding dress, red dress, bouquets, background, etc.

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b39/thelmasofast/IMG_3564-1copy2.jpg

blcknspo0ln
10-16-2008, 06:14 PM
Here's another shot at it, looks a bit more natural:
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b39/thelmasofast/IMG_3564-1copy4.jpg

jacobsen1
10-16-2008, 06:28 PM
^ your first one looks really good and more natural than the second IMHO.

danm
10-16-2008, 08:52 PM
yeah the first is awesome. the only thing is the color of the dresses changed. i am really impressed with the eyes, you brought them out a TON!

i need to learn about layers, i have no clue how to utilize them.

blcknspo0ln
10-16-2008, 09:10 PM
Thanks. I guess I just liked the second one more because it wasn't so yellow :)

last try, promise. I just adjusted the saturation down on the red dresses. If you want the .psd file (if you're using photoshop), I'd be more than happy to email you the file, so you can see what I did. I have no fear sharing 'secrets'. :D

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b39/thelmasofast/IMG_3564-2copy.jpg

thomps6s
10-16-2008, 09:14 PM
Can you post a true Full Rez file? The one you linked to is 43kb

blcknspo0ln
10-16-2008, 09:17 PM
This sounds retarded, but I don't have a webhost that lets me upload high res :(

thomps6s
10-16-2008, 09:18 PM
This sounds retarded, but I don't have a webhost that lets me upload high res :(

This is Danm's image right?

blcknspo0ln
10-16-2008, 09:22 PM
I'm confused, are you asking if I have a link to the picture I modified of danm's original? Either way, I temporarily hosted it on the NSOPgallery I just created.

http://www.newschoolofphotography.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=2986

danm
10-16-2008, 09:35 PM
i guess the nsop gallery doesnt give you the full res? i uploaded the full res to the gallery. what is the best way to post a full res?

if you follow the link i have in the OP and click the button on top of the pic on the right if center it goes full res? at least it does for me. does is work for you Shawn?

thomps6s
10-16-2008, 09:47 PM
Sorry, didn't see the full rez symbol click thing on the slideshow page. I got it now.

blcknspo0ln
10-16-2008, 09:57 PM
Don't mind me, major fail here. LOL

danm
10-16-2008, 10:02 PM
these last five or so posts have me cracking up:lol::lol::lol:

thomps6s
10-16-2008, 11:03 PM
We argh srmt